Mark Meier, a onetime manager for a Minneapolis medical clinic, has the tickets to talk to business people about depression.
Meier, 41, the married father of three, quit a job and nearly killed himself several years ago during a deep bout that rendered him indecisive, despondent and self-loathing.
There's a human and a business case to be made for prompt treatment of depression, which if left unchecked can become chronic and debilitating for the sufferer and costly for employers.
"Being depressed is still filled with lots of stigma and anguish," Meier said this month to an acknowledging group of managers and merchants from Patina, the Minneapolis retailer.
"Productive people can check out for a few days to weeks. It gets to the point that they can't seem to do things you know they can. It can impact everybody. But let's recognize it and refer people who need help.
"I mean, you can get a prescription for a good, generic medication from a doctor for as little as $4 at Wal-Mart. That's not much compared with calling in sick several days a month, or showing up and not producing."
Meier calls that "presenteeism.'"
Depression is a leading cause of suicide. And there are more than twice as many suicides as homicides, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. We've all heard of folks who have died by their own hand, due to an inability to cope with depression.