Four Downs while wondering just how many farewell retirement shows it'll take before Don Shelby actually retires ...
FIRST DOWN:
It was the 31-3 loss that turned Winter Park upside down, got Brad Childress fired, reaffirmed Elmer Fudd's Zygi Wilf's future is not in public speaking and made Packer fans happy to be alive. But it did nothing to help the Vikings' jockeying for the No. 1 draft pick in 2011.
In fact, the Vikings fell from seventh heading into Chilly's last game to ninth heading into Frazier's first game against the Redskins in Washington. But don't feel bad. Bills fans have watched a two-game winning streak drop their team from No. 1 to No. 4. According to the draft gurus, the No. 1 overall pick will be Stanford QB Andrew Luck, who they say might be even better than John David Booty.
Here's the draft lineup through Week 11:
1. Carolina (1-9)
2. Detroit (2-8, .520 strength of schedule)
3. Cincinnati (2-8, .540 strength of schedule)