Michael Rand started RandBall with hopes that he could convince the world to love jumpsuits as much as he does. So far, he's only succeeded in using the word "redacted" a lot. He welcomes suggestions, news tips, links of pure genius, and pictures of pets in Halloween costumes here, though he already knows he will regret that last part.

Follow Randball on Twitter

Monday (Vikings connection proves how good Seahawks are) edition: Wha' Happened?

Posted by: Michael Rand under Vikings Updated: February 3, 2014 - 9:52 AM

Let's start, as we often do, with a couple of caveats:

*The 2009 Vikings and the 2013 Seahawks were obviously constructed in different ways. Seattle is a young team on the rise, while the 2009 Vikings had a lot of veterans -- most notably Brett Favre -- with a narrow window for success.

*Those Vikings were also tilted heavily toward offensive prowess, while the Seahawks lean heavily on their defense. Both, however, were no slouches on the other side of ball when need be.

That said, the ex-Vikings factor on the Super Bowl champion Seahawks serves notice as to just how good Seattle is.

In 2009, Percy Harvin and Sidney Rice combined for nearly half of Minnesota's receiving yards. Take those guys out of the Vikings' offense, and they would have been quite ordinary. In fact, when you took Rice out of the offense for much of 2010, we saw what happened (that year was abysmal for many reasons, but an injured Rice getting just 17 catches was chief among them). For the 2013 Seahawks, both guys could have been primed for big years. Instead, both were injured much of the season. Rice had just 15 catches; Harvin had just one during the regular season. True, Harvin came back to contribute in the Super Bowl, but he looked like a luxury instead of a key cog at that point. And Seattle still had a more than functional offense, finishing among the top 10 in the NFL in points scored in the regular season.

In 2009, and for much of his Vikings tenure, Antoine Winfield was the team's best corner. He wasn't a shut-down guy, but he was a ferocious tackler for his size. He went to Seattle as a veteran in 2013 ... and they were so deep on defense that they didn't even keep him. True, he is 36 now. But he was also coming off one of his best seasons as a pro with the Vikings in 2012 (101 tackles, 12 pass breakups, 3 INTs) and we saw how lost the 2013 Vikings were without him (or someone like him).

That is insane organizational depth, and that is the best way to build a consistent winner in the NFL. We saw the Vikings go all-in for 2009 (and 2010), and it almost paid off ... but then we saw the drop-off, which was precipitous. Those Vikings had nowhere near Seattle's depth, and now they are digging out of the hole in an attempt to try to catch up to where the Seahawks are now.

  • 14
  • Comments


St. Louis - WP: L. Lynn 4 FINAL
Washington - LP: J. Zimmermann 3
Toronto - WP: M. Buehrle 5 FINAL
Cleveland - LP: C. Kluber 0
LA Angels - LP: C. Wilson 2 FINAL
Detroit - WP: M. Scherzer 5
Baltimore - LP: B. Norris 2 FINAL
Boston - WP: J. Tazawa 4
Minnesota - LP: K. Correia 4 FINAL
Kansas City - WP: B. Chen 5
Cincinnati - LP: T. Cingrani 4 FINAL
Chicago Cubs - WP: E. Jackson 8
Houston - LP: C. Qualls 3 FINAL
Oakland - WP: D. Otero 4
Milwaukee - WP: J. Henderson 8 FINAL
Pittsburgh - LP: J. Grilli 7
Atlanta - WP: E. Santana 7 FINAL
NY Mets - LP: B. Colon 5
NY Yankees - LP: I. Nova 1 FINAL
Tampa Bay - WP: C. Archer 16
Seattle - LP: R. Elias 0 FINAL
Miami - WP: H. Alvarez 7
Chicago WSox - LP: J. Quintana 3 FINAL
Texas - WP: C. Lewis 6
Philadelphia - LP: K. Kendrick 1 FINAL
Colorado - WP: J. Lyles 3
Arizona - LP: M. Bolsinger 6 FINAL
Los Angeles - WP: D. Haren 8
San Francisco - LP: T. Hudson 1 FINAL
San Diego - WP: E. Stults 3
Brooklyn 94 FINAL
Toronto 87
Golden State 109 FINAL
LA Clippers 105
Atlanta 101 FINAL
Indiana 93
Memphis 86 FINAL
Oklahoma City 100
Chicago 3 FINAL(OT)
St. Louis 4
Columbus 4 FINAL(OT)
Pittsburgh 3
Minnesota 2 FINAL
Colorado 4
Houston 0 FINAL
Philadelphia 0
New England 1 FINAL
Chicago 1
San Jose 0 FINAL
Colorado 0
Los Angeles 2 FINAL
Vancouver FC 2
Columbus 1
Toronto FC 1 FINAL
FC Dallas 2
Montreal 0 FINAL
Sporting Kansas City 4
Portland 0 FINAL
Real Salt Lake 1
Seattle 2 FINAL
Chivas USA 1
Connect with twitterConnect with facebookConnect with Google+Connect with PinterestConnect with PinterestConnect with RssfeedConnect with email newsletters



Date/Opponent Time W L Score
2013 preseason     
Aug 9 - vs. Houston 7 pmX27-13
Aug 16 - at Buffalo 6 pmX20-16
Aug 25 - at San Francisco 7 pmX34-14
Aug 29 - vs. Tennessee 7 pmX24-23
2013 regular season     
Sep 8 - at Detroit NoonX34-24
Sep 15 - at Chicago NoonX31-30
Sep 22 - vs. Cleveland NoonX31-27
Sep 29 - vs. Pittsburgh (in London) NoonX34-27
Oct 6 - Bye
Oct 13 - vs. Carolina NoonX35-10
Oct 21 - at. NY Giants 7:40 pmX23-7
Oct 27 - vs. Green Bay 7:30 pmX44-31
Nov 3 - at Dallas NoonX27-23
Nov 7 - vs. Washington 7:25 pmX34-27
Nov 17 - at Seattle 3:25 pmX41-20
Nov. 24 - at Green Bay Noon26-26
Dec 1 - vs. Chicago NoonX23-20
Dec 8 - at Baltimore NoonX29-26
Dec 15 - vs. Philadelphia NoonX48-30
Dec 22 - at Cincinnati NoonX42-14
Dec 29 - vs. Detroit NoonX14-13




question of the day

Poll: Which quarterback is best in the NFL draft?

Weekly Question