Attorney Clinton Collins always liked his phone, but he’s unusually attached to it these days. He’s awaiting a call about a kidney and pancreas transplant.

He told me about this at Costco, our usual accidental meeting place. Collins’ personality shows no sign of stress; the merciless razzing that rules our relationship is unchanged. Since our video, the sharp-dressing Collins has embraced his baldness by shaving off all his hair. “I’m being called black Daddy Warbucks. I like it. People have told me I look five to 10 years younger,” he said.

Q: People have noticed your weight loss?

A: That is correct. I was at a dinner last night with some judges and lawyers. We meet once a month at Jax Cafe and they said “Wow, what motivated you to do this?” I said, “Damn, when someone says, ‘Do you have your affairs in order?’ — the doctors said to me last December — it got my attention.” I knew they were not joking.

Q: You need a kidney and a pancreas?

A: Normally [they do just one], but because I am diabetic they want to make sure the kidney works and doing the pancreas will take stress off the kidney. ... Because I need two [organs], that list moves faster.

Q: Harvard gave you hypertension?

A: Actually, Michigan [Law School. Laughter]. Yeah. I had been borderline for a while — and back then I was in good shape. I wasn’t overweight at all. It’s what the stress between being in law school and being a black man in America will do to you.

Q: You were in good shape?

A: [Laughter] Oh yeah, I was in damn good shape!

Q: What did you give up to accomplish your weight loss?

A: Mostly carbs, I gave up beer, peanut butter out of the jar, which I used to love; I still do it occasionally. Sausage McMuffins — I used to get that every morning.

Q: You might have the biggest ego of anybody on my phone list because I included “the Great.”

A: I got that nickname, back in high school, “C C the Great.” It was given to me facetiously, but I thought, “Hey, that’s accurate.” I just rolled with it.

Q: What did you learn about parenting the two sons from the first marriage that you applied to your son from your second marriage?

A: You don’t always have to be right. Something my mother said to me years ago, I really appreciate now: “They have everything we have but judgment.” So I have to use my judgment. With the older two boys, there were some times I got in their faces and it didn’t matter. With this [youngest one] if he’s really going to do something stupid, it doesn’t matter, but if it’s annoying without stupid ...

Q: One of your older boys put you through your paces!

A: That’s the one who recently got married. One time he was going to take me out in a fight; he was 16, 17. He took a swing at me. I pinned him against the wall and his younger brother [threw up his hands] and said, “I ain’t got nothing to do with this.” We do [laugh about that now]. I have a very close relationship with both of the older boys.

Q: Colin Kaepernick doesn’t have a job in the NFL because ...

A: A lot of NFL owners are conservative; the fans are conservative. But it’s interesting, the tide is shifting. I believe he’s going to be playing if not this season, next. I’m a veteran. I respect the flag as much as anyone, but on the other hand, I respect the right to protest. I was recently reading an article about letters Martin Luther King [Jr.] wrote out of the Birmingham jail, which are celebrated now. Most “moderate people” tried to dissuade him, tried to dissuade the Freedom Riders. Protest is not supposed to be comfortable. I hope we someday have a country where we wouldn’t be protesting that kind of stuff because racism no longer exists. But pigs will fly before we see that.

C.J. can be reached at and seen on Fox 9’s “Buzz.” E-mailers, please state a subject; “Hello” does not count.