In March 2000, the Nasdaq composite stock market index closed at an all-time high of 5,048.62 and then promptly rolled off the table, losing nearly 80 percent of its value by October 2002.
One way to look at it — the way real estate people look at the for-sale housing market — is that in more than 13 years the Nasdaq composite has never "recovered." It's still down more than 25 percent from its peak.
The thing is, stock market people didn't usually talk about the Nasdaq composite in terms of recovery after the Nasdaq bubble burst, maybe because they were simply too embarrassed. So why is "recovery" the word just about everybody uses when discussing the housing market?
This is more than a complaint over a word choice; the language broadly used to describe financial assets and choices for consumers really does matter. Talking about a recovery suggests some sort of natural level for housing prices, much like a rainy spring after a drought leads to a recovery of lake water levels.
But it's batty to imply that any asset should quickly reach its previous high in valuation as more normal times return, not when the old high reflected prices that were fundamentally unhinged from reality.
One of the people who agrees with that view is Svenja Gudell, senior economist at the real estate information services firm Zillow Inc. She pointed out that "a lot of times we will not see peak levels for many, many years to come. There was a housing bubble, and those home values were totally overblown."
Seattle-based Zillow produces estimates of value or rental rates for about 100 million residential properties in the nation, including almost all properties in the Twin Cities metro area. The Twin Cities had a bubble, Gudell said, just one that wasn't as intense as what was seen in some other markets.
Zillow's estimate for May 2013 for the Twin Cities market is a median house value of $185,300, up 11 percent over the previous year but still down 23 percent from the March 2006 peak. And, Gudell added, about 30 percent of Twin Cities owners owe more on their mortgages than their houses are worth, which is more underwater owners than the national average.