Scroll through a discussion of long-term unemployment on the social news website Reddit and you're likely to see a suggestion to lie to get a job.
Not little lies, either, such as a harmless rounding up of some prior job experience.
That big hole on the résumé for the year out of work? Fill it with a great job, just make it up. Then get a prepaid cellphone for your brother to give a great job reference.
"Do it," wrote one Reddit poster. "Why not? Chances are they won't get even a chance for that job if they are honest, so what do these people have to lose? It's pathetic that it has come to this, but if it's the difference between having a paycheck to pay your mortgage, or possibly losing your house … then it's not even up for debate in my book."
OK, so maybe lying to get a job is the kind of thing young people on Reddit think is just fine. It's obvious from reading through Reddit that its long page of "reddiquette" says nothing about profanity, and its largest demographic segment is men younger than 30.
But it's also possible to see the same advice offered in the comments under articles in the New York Times, read by the moms and dads of the young men posting on Reddit.
In one of the top "readers' picks" comments in the Times last week, one writer said that "I tried being honest at first, but no one would even consider me. So then I found a job that I knew I could do and lied about my past in order to get it. That was four years ago and I'm now in a senior position at the company."
You should treat potential employers, he added, "like prey."