CLEARWATER, Fla. – Paul Molitor called it interesting trivia, but not particularly meaningful to him.
"For me," the Twins manager said, "it's about managing against a friend."
Maybe so, but that friend — Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg — just happens to be in the National Baseball Hall of Fame, inducted in 2005. And with Molitor, Class of '04, in the other dugout, an otherwise forgettable Grapefruit League game made baseball history on Monday.
It's the first time that two Hall of Fame players have managed against each other, and while it will mean more if they someday face each other in the regular season, Sandberg and Molitor clearly enjoyed the moment. They even agreed to throw out the honorary first pitches together.
"We'd tell stories at the Hall of Fame induction weekend, and talk about [managing]," Sandberg said. "In that regard, I'm glad to see it. I'm glad to see where Mollie's at."
They told a few stories Monday, too, about managers who influenced them. Molitor, who next month will manage his first regular-season game, cited Cito Gaston and Tom Kelly, "the most attention-to-detail manager I ever had. I learned so much from him."
Sandberg, entering his second full season as manager in Philadelphia after a 17-year career mostly with the Chicago Cubs, said Jim Frey, who managed the Cubs from 1984 to '86, had a major effect on his career.
"My first two years, I was able to use the whole field, but I had trouble on inside pitches and fastballs in. So he took me aside in spring training and actually had me, for a week, take two rounds of batting practice and try to hit the tarp over in foul [ground], to learn how to clear the hips and how to get the head out," Sandberg said. "That year, I went up in home runs and started to drive the ball. So I learned something about asking a player to do something, seeing the talent and how to go about" improving it.