The takeaway from last week's quarterly results from Supervalu was that analysts and investors weren't expecting much but still got disappointed.
CEO Mark Gross had to repeatedly explain on his investor conference call that it was a "challenging" or "difficult" time to be running a chain of grocery stores. And in fairness to him, he's far from alone in his industry in holding these views.
For those not up on industry news, it can be puzzling at first just what he could be talking about.
Unemployment is half of what it was during the Great Recession, median household income was up 5 percent last year according to the government and housing prices have about made up all the ground lost in downturn. And, of course, we all eat. How could selling groceries be a tough business?
Well, it can if selling prices keep slipping, as they have for Supervalu's retail business as well as just about everybody else.
This is great news for shoppers, of course, but for anyone in the food business it is a new and serious problem. At least in the past 30 years, grocery store price declines across the board have not happened outside of an economic recession.
"It's a fairly sustained bout of deflation," said Jim Hertel, a senior vice president with Illinois-based consumer products and retailing consulting firm Willard Bishop. "It's been a long time since we've seen anything like this."
By some measures it means going back into the record books to 1959.