Old friends and former Bears teammates Ron Rivera and Leslie Frazier stood on opposite sidelines inside the Metrodome on Oct. 13, 2013.
"Yeah, I remember that game," said Vikings cornerback Captain Munnerlyn, who was with the Panthers at the time. "They were talking about firing Coach Rivera if we lost that game."
No one ever really knows who "they" are. But some of those "theys" were saying the same thing about Frazier up here in the Twin Cities.
Both teams were 1-3. The Vikings had tipped their hand on Frazier before the season when they only picked up the one-year option in his contract rather than extend it. Rivera was signed through 2014, but his early-season struggles had grown old after he started 1-5 as a rookie head coach in 2011 and 1-6 in 2012.
"And we had a new general manager [Dave Gettleman]," Munnerlyn said. "We knew we had to go and turn the season around for Rivera. Guys in that locker room play for that coach. They play for him real hard. They know he's a fighter and worked his tail off to get that position. I really think that game changed his career."
That sounds extreme, but the numbers do suggest something began to move in the right direction that day. At least for Rivera.
Starting with that 35-10 win over the Vikings, Rivera has gone 30-11-1, collected back-to-back NFC South titles, won a playoff game and signed a three-year, $15 million extension. Frazier finished that season 5-10-1, was fired and is in his second season as Tampa Bay's defensive coordinator.
As for starting fast, Rivera seems to have gotten the hang of that as well. The Panthers are 11-0 and became the NFL's last undefeated team when the Patriots lost at Denver on Sunday night.