Other attendance topics:

• The Timberwolves won't be picking up season-ticket holders bored by the Wild. The St. Paulites have a 97 percent renewal rate.

• You're hearing more kind words about the Twins. Those haven't helped ticket sales. Attendance stayed lousy to the end of summer.

• The Gophers football team gave away 7,500 tickets and witnesses still estimate an actual attendance of 32-35,000 for Thursday's opener. Row the Dinghy.