Have you ever noticed that Tom Papa, host of NBC's "The Marriage Ref," has a similar vocal cadence to Jerry Seinfeld, creator of the TV show?
OK, neither has Papa. "Maybe we're hanging out too much," he said last weekend, after the first of four sold-out shows at Acme Comedy Co.
Papa and Seinfeld have been friends for nine years. "I was in the [NYC] clubs coming up," Papa said. "There was just one week where we ran into each other. He didn't really know that many people there -- at the time, all his crew was gone. We just kind of hit it off, had a similar sense of humor and started hanging out in the clubs together and started going out on the road together. And then he had this idea for the show."
I had a delicate question about the show, which features a changing roundtable of celebrities deciding stupid disputes that couples have posed.
What percentage of the couples on the show would Papa guess is still having sex with their spouse?
"I would say it's a low percentage that is not [having sex] anymore. Everybody seems pretty connected. There were a couple of people who have seemed more frigid toward each other," Papa said.
"What's really cool to me about it: You see them come up on the monitor. I love when we actually get to see them live. They've gone through this fight and you think, Geez, are they in trouble? Are they going to make it? But they know it's marriage, you have this fight, they're in love."
Papa understands what's really going on in most of the marital disputes: "A lot of it's about power, exerting power, not necessarily that you're disgusted by something, but 'I'm the one in charge here.'"