A smile creeps over attorney Jordan Kushner's face as he recalls a 1989 incident when he was a law student acting as a legal observer and says he witnessed a Minneapolis police officer tackling and then pummeling an antiwar demonstrator.
Kushner walked over to a police supervisor and said, "How can you stand there and let your officer brutalize someone, you fascist Nazi?"
The police official got quite angry, Kushner said.
"He told two of his henchmen, who arrested me."
Kushner says he had "lost it," crossing the line from observer to protester, and today he offers it as an example of what not to do when he's training legal observers.
Not that Kushner believes his description of police on that occasion was inaccurate. Indeed, Kushner still takes on cops, the courts and the power structure.
Two weeks ago, the city of Minneapolis paid out $165,000 to settle a lawsuit he'd filed. It alleged that police had violated the constitutional rights of seven clients for arresting them when they dressed as zombies and strutted through downtown in 2006.
"It was really cynical abuse by the police," he says.