Decades later, Terese Hermann can recall growing up in poverty with no mother and a father who was in poor health.
The "dumpster diving" at Goodwill. The church ladies coming over with well-meaning but often awkward gifts. Wearing a snowmobile suit and Moon Boots in the house because they couldn't afford to turn up the heat.
Most of all, Hermann remembers the embarrassment.
"Along with knowing empathy and unconditional love for my struggling father, I grew to know the stigma attached to families on welfare all too well," Hermann testified recently at the Legislature.
"I experienced humiliation while paying with food stamps at the local stores … and shame while cashing our monthly welfare check."
Hermann said her father suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and depression, and found it hard to keep a job.
"He was a hard worker when he did work," said Hermann, now 38. "But he just couldn't work after a while. The church helped us a lot, and it was really sweet that people showed up with gifts at Christmastime."
Hermann and her father also survived on a small amount of government aid, then called AFDC, now called the Minnesota Family Investment Program (MFIP). She recalled how anxiously her father awaited the monthly check of $437 — the rate for one parent and child — so he could buy groceries and pay the rent.