NEW YORK — In a songwriting session with a group of rappers, which Ingrid Andress was attending to help write a hook, the conversation turned to immature guy talk about "all the different girls they had."
Uncomfortable and over it, Andress left.
The musician with a publishing deal in Nashville vented to some of her industry friends, popped open a bottle of wine and turned her frustration into songwriting gold.
She began writing "Boys," a pop bop which later became an international hit for British singer Charli XCX. Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, Entertainment Weekly and others named "Boys" one of the best songs of 2017.
The experience of being in rooms with all kinds of artists — pop, rap, R&B, country, rock — helped Andress build her songwriting skills, and now she's being praised for lyrical prowess on her own album, "Lady Like." It's not just one of the year's best debuts, but one of the year's strongest albums.
Andress said she's learned to write honest lyrics and stay true to herself — even if that means being an outsider.
"You're not just born with the gift of songwriting. It takes time just like any sport or learning a language. You have to practice it," she said. "I feel like I can adapt to any situation now. To me, it's about making a good song that makes you feel something. That can be in any genre."
She added that sometimes "people think if you're too specific, you're alienating yourself and not as relatable. I just kind of went for it."