They are all in their 60s and 70s now, graying if not gray, and arthritic joints mean some are moving a little slower than others. Sitting around the table at their regular breakfasts at Sparky's restaurant in downtown Anoka, you'd never know these guys were renegades. But that is exactly what they are.
These are the men of the Vietnam Veterans of America Post 470 Honor Guard and they do things their own way.
At more than 200 funerals a year, the squad performs for burials of veterans. Their approach breaks protocol for the typical veteran honors funeral, where crisp uniformity and military precision trump special attention.
"There's some people on other honor guards who say, 'It can only be done this way,' " said squad founder and commander Mike Clark, a 67-year-old Army Vietnam vet and Purple Heart recipient. "I know there's regulations for the military. They've got to do it a certain way. But we're doing veterans honors, not military honors. We feel like we can make it more personal."
Depending on the ceremony, they will explain the symbols involved: the helmet atop the rifle with the boots in front (the service member who once was but is no more); the origin of taps (a Civil War general liked the sound of it); why the flag is folded into a triangle (a tribute to hats worn during the Revolutionary War); why three rifle volleys are fired, not a 21-gun salute (the 21-gun salute is reserved for the Commander in Chief).
For many veterans, honors at their funeral mark the only recognition they seek for their military service.
The state of Minnesota provides funding to veteran service organizations such as the Veterans of Foreign Wars and American Legion to provide honors funerals for veterans.
They can be paid as much as $50 for each funeral, for expenses such as mileage and uniforms. But the money comes at a price.