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A fresh Johnny

Former Sex Pistol John Lydon on butter ads, PiL and finding peace.

October 25, 2012 at 5:48PM
Photo by Paul Heartfield; Publicity photo of Public Image Limited with John Lydon front.
Publicity photo of Public Image Limited with John Lydon front. (Star Tribune/The Minnesota Star Tribune)
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On the surface, it looked like the most rotten thing rock's most famous punk has ever done to sell out his image.

"I buy Country Life because I think it tastes the best," the artist formerly known as Johnny Rotten sneered on screen in butter commercials smeared all over U.K. television in recent years. That's right: The guy who infamously declared himself the Antichrist had suddenly gone pro-butter.

As with the Pistols' publicity-driven firestorm of the 1970s, though, John Lydon says there's a deeper story behind those ads. They bought him the freedom to become more punk than he's ever been in his 35-year recording career.

"Shilling for butter is a lot less harmful and denigrating than dealing with a record company," Lydon said in a surprisingly gracious phone interview.

Headed to Mill City Nights for his first Twin Cities performance since 1989, the British music legend is back on the road with his post-Pistols dance-rock band Public Image Limited. The group's first new album in 20 years, "This is PiL," dropped over the summer.

Lydon says PiL could not have returned without those Country Life ads, or the equally surprising TV stints he did in the '00s.

"For 20 years there, I was under these stifling obligations by major record labels that made it impossible for me to function," Lydon explained. With his wicked, iconic laugh, he added, "Thank God for British butter! We're completely independent of the shitty record-label system, and we're raring to go."

"This Is PiL" is a solid representation of the new wavey, electronically addled, rhythmically jagged sound that Public Image trademarked in the late '70s to mid '90s with a series of critically welcomed records, especially its 1979 collection "Metal Box." Commercial success, however, was fleeting for PiL outside of the semi-poppy mid-'80s singles "Rise" and "This Is Not a Love Song."

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"The record companies had kind of a childish resentment to anything new that I brought them," Lydon said. "But they would sign bands that imitated our music two or three years later."

Even as he ranted against the record industry, Lydon tempered the conversation with sweet talk of his life at home in Los Angeles and his return to the road. "I'm definitely not a bitter old man," he insisted. He has found similar harmony with the current lineup of PiL, featuring '80s members Lu Edmonds (guitar) and Bruce Smith (drums).

Lydon even seems lighter-hearted when talking about his revolutionary Sex Pistols ("We're all getting on as friends"), but he remains committed to leaving it in the past. Though they reunited for two tours, they skipped their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction in 2006.

Asked if he would ever tour as John Lydon and perform both PiL and Pistols songs, he swiftly replied, "There's no need anymore. The Pistols to me are dead, finished. It's very nice that Universal has re-released the 'Bollocks' album, but I'm not going to be performing it anymore."

In Lydon's eyes, the Pistols' work will forever feel contaminated. PiL, however, is "completely uncontaminated now," he boasted, sounding anything but rotten.

"My heart and soul is truly in this."

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