Vatican offers dialogue with breakaway Latin Mass traditionalist group, but with a catch

ROME — The Vatican warned a breakaway traditionalist Catholic group on Thursday that it risked going into schism if it goes ahead with plans to consecrate new bishops without papal consent, setting a hard line against a big doctrinal challenge facing Pope Leo XIV.

Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, head of the Vatican's doctrine office, issued the warning during a meeting Thursday with the superior general of the Society of St. Pius X, the Rev. Davide Pagliarani, the Vatican said. The meeting was scheduled after the Swiss-based society, which celebrates the traditional Latin Mass but isn't in communion with Rome, announced plans to consecrate new bishops July 1 without papal consent.

Fernández offered a new round of theological talks to regularize the SSPX's status, but only if it calls off the planned ceremony.

The SSPX has been a thorn in the side of the Holy See for four decades, founded in opposition to the modernizing reforms of the 1960s Second Vatican Council, which among other things allowed Mass to be celebrated in the vernacular.

The SSPX first broke with Rome in 1988, after its founder, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, consecrated four bishops without papal consent, arguing that it was necessary for the survival of the church's tradition. The Vatican promptly excommunicated Lefebvre and the four other bishops, and the group today still has no legal status in the Catholic Church.

But in the decades since that original break with Rome, the group has continued to grow, with schools, seminaries and parishes around the world and branches of priests, nuns and lay Catholics who are attached to the pre-Vatican II traditional Latin Mass.

Growth of a parallel church

For the Vatican, papal consent for the consecration of bishops is a fundamental doctrine, guaranteeing the lineage of apostolic succession from the time of Christ's original apostles. As a result, the consecration of bishops without papal consent is considered a grave threat to church unity and a cause of schism, since bishops can ordain new priests. Under church law, a consecration without papal consent incurs an automatic excommunication for the person who celebrates it and the purported new bishop.

Pagliarani has said in comments on the SSPX website that the consecrations of new bishops are necessary for the society's survival, because the remaining two are getting old and are increasingly unable to tend to the needs of SSPX members around the world.

Offer of dialogue, with a catch

During the talks Thursday at the Vatican, Fernández offered to open a theological dialogue with the SSPX to address concerns that they have outlined to the Vatican starting in 2017, especially concerning Catholic relations with other religions.

The aim, according to the Vatican statement, would be to identify the minimum points of agreement necessary to bring the SSPX back into communion with the Holy See and outline a legal status so it could exist within the church.

The SSPX didn't immediately issue a statement on its website. It hasn't responded to requests for comment this week.

In announcing the planned consecrations and in a follow-up comments on its website, Pagliarani justified the ordination of new bishops as both ''realistic and reasonable,'' given the number of people who attend SSPX Masses.

Long history of dialogue

The Vatican has tried for years to reconcile with the SSPX. Pope Benedict XVI in 2009 lifted the excommunications of the surviving bishops and relaxed restrictions on celebrating the old Latin Mass.

While offering some gestures to the SSPX, Francis reversed Benedict's reform that allowed greater celebration of the old Latin Mass, arguing it had become a source of division in the church.

Leo has acknowledged the tensions and sought to pacify the debate, expressing an openness to dialogue and allowing exceptions to Francis' crackdown.

The Vatican, for example, said that Leo had explicitly approved Thursday's encounter, which it described as ''cordial and sincere.''

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