Microsoft's Brad Smith pushes Big Tech to 'pay our way' for AI data centers amid rising opposition

It won't be easy for Big Tech companies to win the hearts and minds of Americans who are angered about massive artificial intelligence data centers sprouting up in their neighborhoods, straining electricity grids and drawing on local reservoirs.

Microsoft is trying anyway.

The software giant's president, Brad Smith, is meeting with federal lawmakers Tuesday to push forward an approach that calls for the industry, not taxpayers, to pay the full costs of the vast network of computing warehouses needed to power AI chatbots like ChatGPT, Google's Gemini and Microsoft's own Copilot. President Donald Trump gave Microsoft's effort a nod in a Truth Social post Monday evening, where he stated that he does not want Americans to ''pick up the tab'' for these data centers and pay higher utility costs.

''Local communities naturally want to see new jobs but not at the expense of higher electricity prices or the diversion of their water,'' Smith said in an interview with The Associated Press.

Smith's campaign comes as data center developers are increasingly running into hostility in towns where they want to build and meeting defeat at municipal boards that must approve zoning applications or construction permits.

Rising electric prices are one problem. Heavy water usage by data centers to cool electronic equipment has also elicited concerns from local residents that they'll see their wells run dry or their water utility bills spike.

The defeats have spread alarm among data center allies and spurred efforts to ramp up the amount of money that operators are willing to offer communities in exchange for approval.

In the mid-Atlantic region grid that encompasses all or parts of 13 states, ratepayers have been paying higher prices on their bills since at least June because of data centers, according to utilities and analysts.

Electricity bills are expected to keep rising as payments to power plant owners grow to entice the construction of new power sources to meet demand from new and yet-to-be-built data centers in hotspots like Virginia, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Another source of friction is that big data center developers can strike bulk power deals with local electric utilities that are profitable for utilities, but also kept confidential. That means it may never be clear whether data center operators really are paying for their electricity — or foisting the cost onto the rest of the utility's ratepayers, consumer advocates say.

Data center projects have also met objections in communities where people are worried about losing open space, farmland, forest or rural character, or are concerned about the damage to quality of life, property values, environment or their health.

In Hobart, Indiana, last week, the City Council approved a tax-abatement package for a multibillion-dollar Amazon data center planned there. In turn, the deal promises Amazon will make two payments of $5 million each for issuing a pair of building permits, plus another series of payments totaling $175 million over three years at various project milestones.

In Wisconsin, where Smith grew up and the home of what Microsoft has called ''the world's most powerful AI datacenter,'' the company has encountered hurdles in expanding its construction projects near the shores of Lake Michigan. The company has promised the centers will employ hundreds of people when they're finished. Democratic Gov. Tony Evers has touted the projects he says will put Wisconsin ''on the very cutting edge of AI power.''

But environmentalists and consumer groups have warned that the centers will consume unprecedented amounts of electricity, driving up rates across the Midwestern power grid, and could use hundreds of thousands of gallons of Lake Michigan water daily. Company officials have pledged that the centers' impact will be minimal and will contribute carbon-free energy to the power grid.

Environmental group Clean Wisconsin has called for government officials to pause data center approvals until the state develops a comprehensive plan to regulate them. Francesca Hong, one of several Democratic candidates for governor — Evers is not seeking re-election in November — has developed a proposal she calls CONTROL ALT DELETE that calls for a moratorium on data center construction until ''we know how to protect ourselves from their environmental and energy costs.''

In the interview with AP, Smith talked about data center projects in Wisconsin and elsewhere. This interview has been edited for clarity and length.

What's the heaviest lift for Microsoft in terms of what you are contributing to ameliorate data center opposition?

Who are you talking about when you say you disagree with those who say AI is so beneficial that the public should help pay for the electricity the technology needs?

Smith: I shouldn't name names. First of all, we wholeheartedly agree with the positive impact that AI is going to create for the future. But we don't think that the public should be devoting tax dollars to pay for the improvements in the electricity grid that are needed to serve data centers. Private companies can incorporate that into their financial planning, especially when you look at things like improvements on the transmission side or improvements in substations.

Clean energy is not a priority for the current presidential administration. Are you still pushing for the electricity to power your data centers to be clean?

Smith: We set a goal for ourselves in 2020 of being what we call carbon-negative by 2030. That requires that we reduce the amount of carbon emissions that we create, and that we then remove from the environment each year, beginning in 2030, more carbon than we emit. We have not changed course on that. There are times when the power that is coming to our data centers is generated by something like natural gas. We can work with a utility to ensure that it's cleaner natural gas, but beyond that, we also invest in bringing to the regional grid new sources of carbon-free energy as well, whether it's nuclear, solar, hydro or others.

To what extent are you on track for the 2020 commitments?

What's your position on groups calling for Wisconsin to pause AI data center approvals until there's a plan to ensure these projects won't harm communities?

Smith: We are supportive of Wisconsin developing a comprehensive electricity plan. I don't think our project should be paused to wait for that. We're partnering to build out and improve the electricity grid in southeastern Wisconsin. A rate tariff that we have proposed to the public utility commission would impose on Microsoft additional costs that we would help pay for in the state. And because of other investments we're making, including a 150-megawatt solar farm.

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