Songwriters are odd creatures. The great ones rarely talk about their work, and those who do seldom say much worth hearing.
And then there are David Huckfelt and Benson Ramsey, two of the best. The Pines co-leaders are happy to open up about their magically open-ended music. Yet they speak so casually and spike their comments with such aw-shucks, Iowa farm-boy humility that you forget you're talking to true, ascendant artists.
"There's such a fine line between writing confessional, personal songs that matter and ones that sound too self-important," Huckfelt said when asked about "If By Morning," a masterful breakup song he wrote for the new Pines record being celebrated Friday at the Cedar Cultural Center. "You need to write a song for yourself, but you need to write it big enough for it to resonate with everybody else. Really, that's how a sad song becomes redemptive."
The Pines ooze redemption. Titled "Dark So Gold," their new scarecrow-covered record dropped Jan. 31 via Red House Records -- the same day as an Electric Fetus in-store gig where the band's expanded, seven-man lineup had to cram into the store's small performance corner. One of the best things about the record, though, is how much space and quiet comfort is left inside the songs, even with all that all-star musicianship.
Bassist James Buckley explained the band's minimalist formula before the Fetus set: "When you have this many players, the trick is to hold back or else you'll have nowhere to take the music."
Buckley and drummer JT Bates -- both with jazz backgrounds -- became the Pines' unlikely rhythm section before the last record. Somewhere along the way, the band also recruited keyboardist Alex Ramsey (Benson's kid brother), banjoist Michael Rossetto (Spaghetti Western String Co.) and guitarist Jacob Hanson (Halloween, Alaska).
Talking before the Fetus gig over an order of ham balls at the Black Forest restaurant -- fodder for some crude humor befitting most musicians, never mind these dudes' elegant sound -- the Ramsey brothers and Huckfelt explained how the extra hands meant an extra level of carefulness while making "Dark So Gold."
"With these great players, it would've been so easy for us to go crazy and add so many layers," Huckfelt said, "but in the end we went with only using what's necessary to the song."