Jim Souhan: Mannings have all been there before

Lessons from the Manning family ... Archie was solid on infamously bad teams. Peyton, before the MVPs, struggled mightly. Young Eli, before the playoffs, did the same. Lessons all for still-learning Tarvaris Jackson.

September 14, 2008 at 5:23AM

If you feel obliged to pull for Tarvaris Jackson for any reason -- loyalty, sympathy, an affinity for Alabama State football's color scheme, or because you drafted him in your fantasy league instead of J.T. O'Sullivan -- you should be happy to see a Manning lining up in the Metrodome today.

Because if you're looking for a reason to believe in a struggling young quarterback, you should familiarize yourself with the First Family of Quarterbacks.

The Manning Family Values offer lessons that could apply to Jackson, if he's good enough.

Archie Manning, a good quarterback on really bad teams, proved that it's better to be in Jackson's situation -- a struggling young quarterback on what could be a good team.

Jackson didn't play well on Monday night in Green Bay, but with a strong running game and occasional time in the pocket, he still had chances to beat a good team on the road.

Archie, who also played for the Vikings, was lucky to escape with his life after playing for the legendarily bad New Orleans Saints. He made the Pro Bowl twice. He threw for 3,000 yards three consecutive years, back when 3,000 was a big number. In 1980, he completed 60 percent of his passes, threw for 232 yards a game, threw 23 touchdowns and 20 interceptions, compiled an 81.8 passer rating -- and the Saints went 1-15.

It's better to be Jackson, whose proficient games likely will produce victories.

Peyton Manning -- who benefits from working with two of the best coaches ever to grace our state, Tony Dungy and Tom Moore -- threw for 26 touchdowns, 28 interceptions and a 71.2 passer rating in his first season as the Colts went 3-13. Jackson threw for nine touchdowns, 12 interceptions and a 70.8 rating last year as the Vikings went 8-4 in his starts.

This is not to say Jackson is or ever will be in Manning's category. Manning might be the greatest quarterback to ever play the game, and if he's not, he's a close No. 2 behind Tom Brady. Jackson would do well to establish that he's the best quarterback in Minnesota.

But Peyton Manning's struggles in 1998 do illustrate that even a highly polished, major-college, top-of-the-draft quarterback such as Manning requires time to weed out the mistakes that have plagued virtually every young starter in NFL history.

For Jackson, the best lesson among the Mannings is provided by Eli -- winner of the Super Bowl, slayer of Belichick, toast of New York, receiver of wedgies from Peyton.

As a rookie, Eli played in nine games and compiled a passer rating of 55.4. Last year, in his fourth year as a starter, he completed 56.1 percent of his passes, fumbled 13 times and compiled a Jackson-like rating of 73.9.

The last time the Vikings saw Eli in person, he played worse than Jackson ever has. In fact, he played worse than Spergon Wynn ever played, throwing four interceptions in the Vikings' 41-17 victory at Giants Stadium last November.

The Vikings returned three of those interceptions for touchdowns, and the fourth set up another. Manning got booed throughout the game, and the New York papers rightfully questioned whether he was the right guy for the job.

That day, Jackson, looking remarkably poised, completed 10 of 12 passes, threw a 60-yard touchdown pass, didn't turn the ball over and ran effectively. That day, Jackson was clearly the best quarterback on the field.

But Jackson flopped in the last two games, the Vikings missed the playoffs, and Manning won four consecutive playoff games, pulling off one of the great upsets in Super Bowl history by beating the undefeated Patriots.

Manning played for a team with an impressive defensive line, a strong running game, an uptight coach who learned to relax a little, a team that survived a tough schedule and peaked in the playoffs, a team good enough to allow its struggling quarterback to learn on the job.

Could that scenario, and The Manning Family Values, apply to Jackson? Only if Jackson is is good enough to survive a learning curve that even for the great ones can resemble a bobsled run.

Jim Souhan can be heard Sundays from 10 a.m.-noon on AM-1500 KSTP. • jsouhan@startribune.com

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Jim Souhan is a sports columnist for the Minnesota Star Tribune. He has worked at the paper since 1990, previously covering the Twins and Vikings.

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