Craig: NFL trades require time to wait-and-see

  • Article by: MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 21, 2013 - 11:38 PM

The Browns’ decisions seem odd, but these moves take time to play out.

Unlike a lot of former players-turned-analysts, Doug Dieken isn’t a knee-jerk, scream-louder-than-the-next-person kind of a guy.

Yes, he draws a paycheck as radio analyst for the Cleveland Browns, a team he played 14 seasons for without missing a single game from 1971 to 1984. But his wait-and-see approach on this week’s Trent Richardson trade is interesting. It’s old-school and it in no way is governed by today’s requirement that everyone must immediately blast or rave about everything that happens in the NFL.

Dieken doesn’t like that trading Richardson to the Indianapolis Colts after two games sends the Browns into Sunday’s game against the Vikings with a running back corps that includes an inexperienced waiver-wire pickup (Bobby Rainey), a fullback (Chris Ogbonnaya) and 31-year-old Willis McGahee, who was signed Thursday and hasn’t played since suffering a major knee and lower leg injury a year ago.

But he’s also willing to wait for the other cleat to drop on draft day 2014.

“Do you trade a No. 3 overall running back in his second year?” Dieken asked. “Had he played like Adrian Peterson or Barry Sanders or one of those guys, not really. But there were a lot of missing components there. Ultimately, I think how this one is judged will come down to who they get for this pick or how they package it to get what they need.”

How the other end of the trade unfolds obviously makes all the difference in how it’s perceived. For instance, just imagine how different the Randy Moss trade in 2005 would have been remembered had the Vikings picked Aaron Rodgers seventh overall instead of Troy Williamson.

“We traded Paul Warfield, a future Hall of Famer, in 1970 for the rights to draft [quarterback] Mike Phipps,” Dieken said. “We got the tail end of that deal. But then [in 1977], we traded Mike Phipps to the Bears and got a first-round pick [in 1978]. And that pick turned out to be a Hall of Famer Ozzie Newsome, so we got the better end of that. It really depends on who you draft when you have the opportunity.”

The Vikings have done pretty well trading with the Browns the past few years.

Last year, the Vikings traded the third overall pick to the Browns for the fourth overall pick and extra picks in the fourth, fifth and seventh rounds. The Vikings used the fourth overall pick on Matt Kalil, the player they wanted all along. Then they used the fourth-rounder on receiver Jarius Wright, the fifth-rounder on special teamer and potential future starting safety Robert Blanton and traded the seventh-rounder to Tennessee for a seventh-rounder this season. This year, the Vikings then used that seventh-rounder in a package deal to move back into the first round and select receiver Cordarrelle Patterson.

An even better trade for the Vikings was executed with Cleveland with much less fanfare before the 2010 season.

The Vikings had a promising but one-dimensional pass rushing end named Jayme Mitchell. He was going to be released but was shopped to the Browns for a sixth-round pick in 2012.

Mitchell played one season and is out of football. The Vikings had to wait a couple of years to cash in but ended up using that pick — the 175th overall — on kicker Blair Walsh.

All Walsh has done is make 39 of 42 field-goal attempts, including 11 of 11 from beyond 50 yards, and earn first-team All-Pro as a rookie.

Northern Intelligence

The Bears are going for their first 3-0 start since 2010, when they played the Packers in the NFC Championship Game. But they also know they’re oh so close to trying to avoid an 0-3 start after come-from-behind wins against the Bengals and Vikings.

“We’ve seen a unique team resiliency, an ability to keep our poise, an ability to just move on to the next play without what happened on the last play inhibiting us,” said coach Mark Trestman, whose team faces an 0-2 Steelers team that’s scored only 19 points.

•••

  • related content

  • Vikings Blair Walsh celebrated his second quarter field goal as they took on the Houston Texans in a pre-season game at Mall of America Field, Friday, August 9, 2013 in Minneapolis, MN. (ELIZABETH FLORES/STAR TRIBUNE)

  • get related content delivered to your inbox

  • manage my email subscriptions

ADVERTISEMENT

Los Angeles - LP: C. Frias 2 FINAL
Colorado - WP: J. De La Rosa 16
San Francisco - WP: S. Romo 4 FINAL
Arizona - LP: A. Reed 2
Boston 1 Top 8th Inning
Pittsburgh 9
Toronto 1 Bottom 7th Inning
Baltimore 5
Washington 1 FINAL
Atlanta 3
Miami 4 Bottom 8th Inning
NY Mets 2
NY Yankees 3 Top 9th Inning
Tampa Bay 2
Cincinnati 1 Bottom 6th Inning
Chicago Cubs 2
Chicago WSox 1 Top 6th Inning
Kansas City 5
Cleveland 2 Top 7th Inning
Houston 0
Detroit 4 Top 5th Inning
Minnesota 3
Milwaukee 0 Bottom 6th Inning
St. Louis 0
Seattle - J. Paxton 9:05 PM
LA Angels - C. Wilson
Texas - D. Holland 9:05 PM
Oakland - J. Samardzija
Philadelphia - C. Hamels 9:10 PM
San Diego - E. Stults
Tampa Bay 9/18/14 7:25 PM
Atlanta
San Diego 9/21/14 12:00 PM
Buffalo
Dallas 9/21/14 12:00 PM
St. Louis
Washington 9/21/14 12:00 PM
Philadelphia
Houston 9/21/14 12:00 PM
NY Giants
Minnesota 9/21/14 12:00 PM
New Orleans
Tennessee 9/21/14 12:00 PM
Cincinnati
Baltimore 9/21/14 12:00 PM
Cleveland
Green Bay 9/21/14 12:00 PM
Detroit
Indianapolis 9/21/14 12:00 PM
Jacksonville
Oakland 9/21/14 12:00 PM
New England
San Francisco 9/21/14 3:05 PM
Arizona
Denver 9/21/14 3:25 PM
Seattle
Kansas City 9/21/14 3:25 PM
Miami
Pittsburgh 9/21/14 7:30 PM
Carolina
Chicago 9/22/14 7:30 PM
NY Jets
(5) Auburn 9/18/14 6:30 PM
(20) Kansas State
Connecticut 9/19/14 7:00 PM
So Florida
Old Dominion 9/20/14 11:00 AM
Rice
Troy 9/20/14 11:00 AM
(13) Georgia
Georgia Tech 9/20/14 11:00 AM
Virginia Tech
Eastern Mich 9/20/14 11:00 AM
(11) Michigan State
Iowa 9/20/14 11:00 AM
Pittsburgh
Bowling Green 9/20/14 11:00 AM
(19) Wisconsin
Maryland 9/20/14 11:30 AM
Syracuse
Tulane 9/20/14 11:30 AM
Duke
Hawaii 9/20/14 1:00 PM
Colorado
Marshall 9/20/14 1:00 PM
Akron
North Carolina 9/20/14 2:30 PM
East Carolina
Army 9/20/14 2:30 PM
Wake Forest
Virginia 9/20/14 2:30 PM
(21) BYU
(6) Texas A&M 9/20/14 2:30 PM
SMU
Rutgers 9/20/14 2:30 PM
Navy
Central Mich 9/20/14 2:30 PM
Kansas
Utah 9/20/14 2:30 PM
Michigan
Florida 9/20/14 2:30 PM
(3) Alabama
Louisville 9/20/14 2:30 PM
FIU
Fla Atlantic 9/20/14 3:00 PM
Wyoming
Indiana 9/20/14 3:00 PM
(18) Missouri
San Jose St 9/20/14 3:00 PM
Minnesota
Texas State 9/20/14 3:00 PM
Illinois
Massachusetts 9/20/14 3:00 PM
Penn State
Georgia State 9/20/14 5:00 PM
Washington
Appalachian St 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Southern Miss
Miss State 9/20/14 6:00 PM
(8) LSU
Northern Ill 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Arkansas
Middle Tennessee 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Memphis
Utah State 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Arkansas State
Miami-Ohio 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Cincinnati
Idaho 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Ohio U
Ball State 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Toledo
(14) So Carolina 9/20/14 6:30 PM
Vanderbilt
(4) Oklahoma 9/20/14 6:30 PM
West Virginia
Ga Southern 9/20/14 6:30 PM
South Alabama
UNLV 9/20/14 7:00 PM
Houston
(22) Clemson 9/20/14 7:00 PM
(1) Florida State
Miami-Florida 9/20/14 7:00 PM
(24) Nebraska
New Mexico 9/20/14 7:00 PM
New Mexico St
California 9/20/14 9:00 PM
Arizona
Louisiana 9/20/14 9:30 PM
Boise State
(2) Oregon 9/20/14 9:30 PM
Washington St
San Diego St 9/20/14 9:30 PM
Oregon State
Toronto 9/19/14 9:00 PM
Brt Columbia
Edmonton 9/20/14 6:00 PM
Hamilton
Calgary 9/21/14 12:00 PM
Montreal
Ottawa 9/21/14 3:00 PM
Saskatchewan
Connect with twitterConnect with facebookConnect with Google+Connect with PinterestConnect with PinterestConnect with RssfeedConnect with email newsletters

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

Date/Opponent Time W L Score
2014 preseason     
Aug 8 - vs. Oakland 7 pmX10-6
Aug 16 - vs. Arizona 7:30 pmX30-28
Aug 23 - at Kansas City 7 pmX30-12
Aug 28 - at Tennessee 7 pmX19-3
2014 regular season     
Sep 7 - at St. Louis NoonX34-6
Sep 14 - vs. New England NoonX30-7
Sep 21 - at New Orleans Noon
Sep 28 - vs. Atlanta 3:25 pm
Oct 2 - at Green Bay 7:25 pm
Oct 12 - vs. Detroit Noon
Oct 19 - at. Buffalo Noon
Oct 26 - at Tampa Bay Noon
Nov 2 - vs. Washington Noon
Nov 9 - Bye
Nov 16 - at Chicago Noon
Nov. 23 - vs. Green Bay Noon
Nov. 30 - vs. Carolina Noon
Dec 7 - vs. NY Jets Noon
Dec 14 - at Detroit Noon
Dec 21 - at Miami Noon
Dec 28 - vs. Chicago Noon

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

question of the day

Poll: Do you support Wednesday's decision to sideline Adrian Peterson again?

Weekly Question

ADVERTISEMENT

 
Close