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Green Bay _ There is a simple way to look at the Vikings' overtime loss at Lambeau on Sunday.
When they were lucky enough to play against Scott Tolzein, they dominated, and enjoyed having the superior quarterback.
When they were forced to face a career NFL backup with some level of cmopetence, their defense collapsed.
The result was a cmopletely unsatisfying result for both sides: A 26-26 tie that reminded the Vikings of all their flaws.
If you liked dynamic running, the game was a treat all along. Eddie Lacy broke seemingly dozens of tackles on his way to a monster game, and Adrian Peterson showed little signs of being slowed by his nagging groin injury.
Peterson rushed 32 times for 146 yards and a touchdown. Lacy rushed 25 times for 110 yards and a touchdown, and caught six passes for 48 yards.
The Vikings gave up the game's first score, on a wild scramble by Tolzein, then scored the next 23 points.
Packers coach Mike McCarthy brought in Matt Flynn, the fourth quarterback the Packers have used this month, marking the first time they've used four quarterbacks in a season since 1995.
Flynn immediately sparked the Packers, throwing with more accuracy and rhythm than Tolzein, and the Packers tied the score on a field goal with :46 seconds remaining.
The Packers won the coin flip and took the overtime kickoff. They drove for a feld goal.
The Vikings kicked their own after Toby Gerhart filled in admirably for Peterson.
With Jacksonville and Tampa Bay winning on Sunday, the Vikings are now a half-game better than the teams with the worst records in football. Jacksonville, Houston and Atlanta are 2-9.
Could a tie against the Packers keep the Vikings from the first pick in the draft?
For the second time in three seasons, the Vikings staged a comeback to beat Washington, earning a victory that damaged their draft position.
In 2011, the Vikings’ victory at Washington cost them a chance to draft Robert Griffin III. Thursday, their second-half pass rush beat up Griffin, enabling the Vikings to pull out a 34-27 victory at the Metrodome.
Someday, the Vikings may regret this. Thursday night, just like Christmas Eve 2011, the Vikings ignored what might be best for the franchise and won in impressive fashion.
Christian Ponder played his best game of the season before leaving with a left shoulder injury. Adrian Peterson scored two touchdowns. John Carlson ably replaced Pro Bowl tight end Kyle Rudolph. And Kevin Williams recorded 2 ½ sacks – his first two-sack game since 2009 – to help the Vikings’ defense dominate the last 25 minutes of the game.
It was a strange, surprising, and maybe costly victory.
Against Detroit, the Vikings' defense didn't seem prepared to handle the multiple ways the Lions used Reggie Bush.
Against Chicago, the defensive players intimated they were out of position on the Bears' game-winning drive.
Against Carolina, Jared Allen left some doubt in his postgame interview as to how much confidence he invested in the defensive coaching staff.
Against Green Bay, the Vikings got shredded for 182 rushing and 285 passing yards.
``The Green Bay Packers rushed for about 200 yards on us,'' said defensive end Jared Allen. ``When does that ever happen? When do the Green Bay Packers rush for 200 yards? We've got to stop the run. That was awful. I didn't see that coming whatsoever.''
So I asked linebacker Chad Greenway on Sunday night whether the defensive players were being put in position to succeed.
Read his answer and interpret it any way you like:
``You know what?'' he said. ``The reality is, the call comes into the huddle, we’ve got to make the play. I don’t want to get into a finger-pointing situation. It's not about that.
``When you go through some things, you see there’s more to life than football. This is what we do. At the end of the day, you don’t want to be known as someone who pointed the finger and tried to put it on somebody else. I want to be known as someone who has integrity and want to put the onus on getting better and finding a way. That’s reality. We are where we are.''
I'll be on 1500ESPN from 9-1 tomorrow with Judd Zulgad.
So, which quarterback do you want the Vikings to target with their pick near the top of the 2014 draft?
That might be the only question worth asking about the 2013 Vikings.
Their blowout loss to the Packers on Sunday night leaves them at 1-6, with no quarterback worthy of even an interim tag, and desperate to fix the cornerback position.
Aaron Rodgers demonstrated how a franchise quarterback can control a game on Sunday night, whipping the Vikings with brilliant reads, quick passes, timely runs and flawless decision-making.
The Vikings start Christian Ponder for some reason, and he looked lost throughout the Vikings' 44-31 loss.
Of course, he, unlike Rodgers, didn’t have the luxury of throwing against the Vikings’ cornerbacks.
Maybe that’s the problem with the Vikings’ quarterbacks. They don’t see NFL-caliber corners until they play in games.
What was frightening about the Vikings’ performance on Sunday was that they played with evident fire, they benefited from iffy penalties that led to two scoring drives, Cordarrelle Patterson returned the opening kickoff 109 yards for a touchdown, and they were still embarrassed by a far superior quarterback and team.
Time for the Vikings to start scouting Johnny Football, Teddy Ballgame, and any other college quarterback worthy of a nickname.
I'll be guest-hosting the Judd&Dubay Show with Judd tomorrow morning, 9-1 on 1500ESPN.
Eli Manning has made five career starts against the Vikings.
In those games, he's thrown three touchdown passes and 11 interceptions, and the Giants have gone 1-4.
Against the rest of the NFL, Manning's career numbers are: 217 touchdowns, 148 interceptions, and a 77-59 record.
Perhaps Manning's worst game as a pro came in Jersey against the Vikings. The Vikings would finish 8-8. The Giants would rally to beat the previously undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl.
On Nov. 25, 2007, the game was a mismatch. The Vikings intercepted Manning four times, returning three interceptions for touchdowns, and won, 41-17, with Tarvaris Jackson at quarterback.
Dwight Smith intercepted Manning twice, returning one for a touchdown. Chad Greenway and Darren Sharper each intercepted one and scored on returns.
Sharper had a knack for reading Manning, and baiting him into throwing into coverage. And those Vikings defenses were particularly tough on teams that wanted to play traditionally, by running to set up the pass. Pat Williams and Kevin Williams didn't allow many rushing yards, and the front four put lots of pressure on quarterbacks in obvious passing situations.
Manning lost his first four career starts against the Vikings before finally beating them, 21-13, on Dec. 13, 2010. Even in victory, the Vikings held him to one touchdown pass and intercepted him twice.
I'll be on 1500ESPN at 9:30 Tuesday with Judd&Dubay.
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