Vikings interim coach Leslie Frazier made it official Saturday, saying Brett Favre is out for Monday night's game against Chicago and rookie Joe Webb will start at quarterback.

"Brett tried to do some things prior to practice and that shoulder is not, his arm is just not where it needs to be so he definitely won't participate on Monday night," Frazier said. Frazier acknowledged Favre can throw the ball but described the pain as "just too excruciating right now," adding, "that's what he has to get past."

Frazier indicated that he has no plans to place Favre on injured reserve at this point despite the fact he continues to have pain in his shoulder when he tries to throw the ball. Frazier said the numbness that Favre has been feeling in his throwing hand is starting to go away some.

"I don't know if we'd go in that direction [of putting Favre on IR] because it could change by Tuesday or even on Monday," Frazier said. "Some of it has subsided from a week ago, so he's gradually getting better. Just not enough to where you could put him out there to play so next week may be a little bit different. So we just have to kind of gauge it." Frazier, meanwhile, said he is "really pleased with the progress," that Webb has made this week. "He really seems as if this whole thing is not too big for him and [I'm] really looking forward to watching him play on Monday night," Frazier said. The Vikings are going to discuss promoting R.J. Archer from the practice squad to have a third quarterback behind Webb and newcomer Patrick Ramsey. :We want to have a viable option in an emergency situation so that's something we'll talk about [today]," Frazier said. Peterson improving Running back Adrian Peterson, who practiced Saturday after sitting out Thursday and Friday because of a thigh bruise, is better, according to Frazier. "He was able to go through some things so that was good to see," Frazier said. Peterson was listed as questionable on the Vikings injury report Saturday, giving him a 50 percent chance of playing. Hutchinson out Pro Bowl left guard Steve Hutchinson has been ruled out for Monday, meaning he will miss a third consecutive game because of a broken right thumb.

It's looking more and more like Hutchinson's season could be finished. Asked if the veteran is a candidate to be put on injured reserve, Frazier said: "We've got to take a look at that with the number of games we've got left. So that's something we'll have to discuss."

Some of the swelling Hutchinson experienced has subsided but with only three games left time might be running out. "There's still more [swelling] we'd like to see removed and also some of the pain he has right now," Frazier said. "Just to see if that will change. We're going to discuss it again when I leave this meeting. What's the best approach going forward."

Safety Tyrell Johnson (knee) also is out for this game. Defensive end Ray Edwards (ankle) was able to do some work on Saturday and might return Monday after missing two games. He is listed as questionable, as is safety Jamarca Sanford (concussion). Webb (hamstring) and cornerback Asher Allen (ankle) are listed as probable, meaning they will play. Vikings look at four The Vikings worked out four CFL players on Saturday: Wide receiver Andy Fantuz (Saskatchewan); defensive lineman Demonte Bolden (Hamilton); defensive end Phillip Hunt (Winnipeg) and wide receiver S.J. Green (Montreal). The NFL and CFL have an agreement that players from Canada can't play for an NFL team in the same season so the workouts were conducted with an eye toward 2011. Check out this catch by Green.

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  • Bears linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa (knee) was limited in practice Saturday and is listed as questionable. Cornerback Charles Tillman (foot) and running back Chester Taylor (knee) were taken off the report.