AUGUSTA, Ga. — Legendary sports writer and author Dan Jenkins talks about Ben Hogan winning the first Masters he ever covered in 1951, and how things have changed at Augusta National — particularly the greens.

Jenkins tells "AP Sports Special Events" podcast co-hosts Jim Litke and Tim Dahlberg that he always got along with Hogan, who was also from the Ft. Worth, Texas, area, and was along for the ride as Hogan won in 1951 and 1953.

Jenkins also talks about thinking Ken Venturi, not Arnold Palmer, was going to be the next big star in golf. He said Palmer had a better game than he thought, and the magnetism that took golf into a new era when he won the Masters in 1958 and 1960.

He also tells the hosts that his other love in sports is college football, and talks about the greatest games and greatest athletes he's seen.

It's the 67th Masters for Jenkins, who recalls the scratchy yet fast greens from the 1950s as well as the Quonset hut that the press used to cover the tournament from.

Also joining the podcast is AP Golf Writer Doug Ferguson, who talks about the possibilities on Sunday of Patrick Reed winning his first Masters and Rory McIlroy becoming only the sixth golfer to win the career Grand Slam.

The three engage in some food chat, too, and talk about the caffeine habit that had Litke drinking six shots of espresso on the short car ride to the golf course Saturday.