Q: If every defendant deserves a good lawyer, could you have been a defense attorney at the Nuremberg trials?
A: It probably would be very difficult because they were there for killing all the Jews. It would be hard for me to represent those people [as a Jew].
Q: How would you have defended Amy Senser?
A: I followed the case a little bit, not fully. I think it was a tough case because the woman left the scene. People just didn’t believe what she was saying about it. They weren’t able to find out if she was drinking too much. That’s a tough case for anybody to win.
Q: Former Viking Darren Sharper has been charged with drugging and raping women in California and Arizona. He is being investigated on similar charges in other states. If people who don’t know each other are telling the same story about your allegedly criminal behavior, is it possible all those accusers are lying?
A: The jury will decide. It doesn’t look good on the surface. Put it that way.
Q: Remember your client Ming Sen Shiue jumping over the defense table, charging the witness stand and attacking the star witness, Mary Stauffer?
A: I’ve never forgotten it.
Q: Was that the scariest thing that ever happened in court? 
A: It certainly was, in a trial, no question about it. I was questioning the main witness against Shiue, who I claimed was mentally ill. Didn’t claim he didn’t do it. It was an awful case. Jumped up and pulled a knife that he got from somebody in jail and held it against her. I was just stunned. Jurors started crying. It was absolutely frightening. I said to myself, “Please, cops, don’t screw it up.” Within one minute they jumped him. [Stauffer required numerous stitches.] Thank God, he didn’t kill her. They took him off and he was stiff as a board. The guy was sicko. I tried to get this jury disqualified. But the judge said he did it himself. He probably did the right thing. I said, “Judge, that’s why I’m saying this guy’s got a problem.” He was found guilty. Fortunately, I never had another case like that. What happened was just horrendous. I know the people who worked with [the witness who was cut] sort of blamed me for it, which bothered me because I was doing what I was supposed to do in that case. They made remarks. I read some of the things in the newspaper and I didn’t like it but I said, Well.
Q: How did that incident change you?
A: I don’t think it changed me. I thought about it a lot but it didn’t deter me from taking on a case and representing a client. As a criminal defense lawyer that is obviously your job. If you can’t do it, get out of the courtroom.