Chip Scoggins is a Star Tribune sports columnist. He has temporarily returned to cover the Minnesota Vikings. He had the beat from 2008-2011 after covering college football for five years. Chip has been with the Star Tribune since January 2000. He can be followed on twitter at @chipscoggins.Find Chip on Facebook.
Mark Craig has covered football and the NFL the past 20 years, including the Browns from 1991-95 and the Vikings and the NFL since 2003. Since 2008, Craig has served as one of the 44 Pro Football Hall of Fame selectors. He can be followed on Twitter at @markcraignfl.
Donovan McNabb has been tied to the Vikings in national reports throughout the offseason. And now that teams can talk trade again, the quarterback's name has surfaced in what appears to be far more than speculation.
Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network reported on Twitter that the Vikings and Washington Redskins have parameters of a deal in place for McNabb but agreeing on financial terms with him could be tricky.
This followed an ESPN report that cited NFL sources as saying the Vikings are one of the few teams that have had trade discussions with the Redskins about McNabb. A key issue, however, would be for the Vikings to work out a restructured contract with McNabb. ESPN reports the Vikings cannot make a deal with Washington if they don't have a deal with McNabb and clearly LaCanfora is being told agreeing on the terms might be an issue.
What remains unclear is why the Vikings would trade for McNabb, who was benched twice last season by Mike Shanahan as the Redskins finished 6-10. It's clear that Shanahan isn't going to bring back McNabb and thus at some point the veteran is going to hit the open market.
The only issue would be if the Vikings are concerned the 34-year-old McNabb would sign with another team, such as Tennessee, and feel it's worth giving up a draft pick to not let that happen. The Redskins signed McNabb to a five-year contract extension that appeared to be worth $78 million last November. However, as ESPN's report points out, the only thing guaranteed was that McNabb would get an additional $3.5 million in 2010.
The contract also has a clause that enables Washington to release McNabb before the 2011 season with no more money due to him.
Many believe the Vikings will sign or trade for a veteran quarterback to help ease the transition of first-round pick Christian Ponder, especially since the rookie did not get the benefit of the offseason program. However, there are different opinions on who would be a good fit to play in front of Ponder for a short period before the rookie was ready.
Another name that emerged early in the offseason was Dolphins free-agent quarterback Tyler Thigpen. There are about six teams interested in Thigpen and the Vikings are believed to be one of them.
Jackson, Seahawks agree to terms
This will come as no surprise.
There are two reports that former Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson has agreed to terms with Seattle. He can't sign the contract until Friday.
The move reunites Jackson with Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, who held the same job with the Vikings during Jackson's entire stint in Minnesota.
Reports also say veteran quarterback Matt Hasselbeck will not return to the Seahawks.
The Seattle Seahawks are planning to make a major effort to sign Vikings free agent wide receiver Sidney Rice, according to Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network.
Seattle has plenty of room under the salary cap and the fact former Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell now holds the same job in Seattle means this move might make sense for Rice.
Rice could step in as Seattle's top receiver.
The issue is Rice would be joining a team that appears as if it is going to have a question mark at quarterback. Matt Hasselbeck is going to depart as a free agent, according to the Seattle Times, and the Seahawks have Charlie Whitehurst behind him. There also continue to be reports that soon-to-be former Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson will wind up with the Seahawks.
Rice and Jackson certainly seemed to get along during their time together in Minnesota, but it's not known if Rice would be excited about an on-the-field reunion with Jackson. It's quite possible he could be fine with it.
As for the Vikings, it was expected that trying to retain Rice would be one of their first orders of business today as NFL teams were allowed to begin negotiating with veteran players. Veterans can't be signed until Friday evening.
Where the Vikings might run into a tough situation is if Rice is offered a substantial amount of guaranteed money elsewhere. Rice had an outstanding 2009 season, playing in all 16 regular-season games, but in his other three years in the NFL he has never played the entire schedule. He missed much of last season after having hip surgery right before the start of the season.
During what proved to be a crazy Thursday in the NFL lockout, Vikings center Jon Cooper took to his Twitter account. "I wish they would show the players, what the players are voting on," he wrote. "Or maybe I'm just crazy."
Cooper was asked to elaborate on his frustration Friday morning after going through workouts on the University of Minnesota campus that are led by Cardinals wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald Jr.
"Being in the dark on something that really affects your life, it’s tough to sit back and watch and have people criticize you for it," he said. " I wish I knew what to say or what was going on because I get all my information from the news basically. Hopefully when something is about to get done we’ll get informed a little bit before, but as of now we get sporadic e-mails from the union or our player rep. But most of the stuff we find out is on ESPN or any website or whatever. That’s our basis of information. Then people are like, ‘Why don’t you guys just play.’ It’s like, ‘It’s not that simple.’”
ESPN reported today that players still want owners to budge on two key issues: The first is an opt-out clause seven years into the proposed 10-year collective bargaining agreement; the second is the ability to report to team facilities and vote in person on recertifying as a union.
The issue, according to ESPN, is the owners believe the NFLPA could recertify as a union by allowing the estimated 1,900 players to use electronic signatures. The NFLPA wants to adhere to the same thorough process that led to decertification. The owners, of course, approved the deal Thursday but the players declined to vote on it.
While Cooper would like more information, Kansas City quarterback Tyler Palko has tuned out the various media reports that are all over the map.
"Honestly, to tell you the truth I don’t even pay any attention to that stuff," he said. "There’s just so many media outlets and rumors and twitter. That’s why I don’t get on that crap. You don’t know what to believe anymore. Honestly, when I’m done here [working out] I go home, watch the Golf Channel, go hit some golf balls and my cell phone is there."
Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder, the 12th pick in the April draft, finds himself in an interesting situation. On one hand, Ponder wants (and needs) to get on the field as soon as possible. But he also knows that once a 10-year CBA is signed that that will be it. Most of Ponder's career will be played under the agreement and if five years into it it no longer appears to be favorable, there will be nothing the NFLPA can do. Especially if there is no opt-out clause.
“I can wait as long as possible," Ponder said. "Obviously, I want to get on the field, but I know the importance of getting a deal that’s going to last 10 years exactly how we want it. So if it takes another month or so or we lose some games so be it. We definitely want the best deal we can get.”
Jackson bound for Seattle?
Tarvaris Jackson will be a former Vikings as soon as the lockout comes to an end. What remains to be seen is where the free agent will end up signing. One team that is believed to be interested is Seattle, which could lose quarterback Matt Hasselbeck in free agency.
Jackson could compete with Charlie Whitehurst, playing for Seattle offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell. Bevell, of course, was Jackson's offensive coordinator with the Vikings for five seasons and that familiarity could be important considering how little time teams will have to get ready once the lockout ends.
"It seems like a pretty good opportunity," Jackson said when asked if Seattle would interest him. "I know the offense. That’s a plus. Coach Bevell, he’s very familiar with me and I’m very familiar with him. So that’s always a plus."
Asked about his relationship with Bevell, Jackson said: "We always had a pretty good relationship. I worked more closely with [Kevin] Rogers because he was my quarterbacks coach. [Bevell] spent a lot of time in different guys’ rooms, our room, the offensive linemen’s room, always going back and forth. ... But we had a pretty good relationship, me and Bev did."
Jackson has been a regular at the Fitzgerald workouts but said that Friday was his last day. The sessions are expected to continue through Tuesday and maybe longer if the lockout isn't finished.
Vikings right tackle Phil Loadholt and guard Chris DeGeare joined the Fitzgerald workouts on Friday. Loadholt appeared to be in very good shape after training in Oklahoma and then Eden Prairie.
"I’ve been working pretty hard," he said. "Me and Anthony Herrera worked together for a while. Most of the guys are doing as much as we can to stay in shape. We’ve got a playbook. We can study that as much as we can. But really, we need to get around the coaches and get to work, though."
Loadholt said he got a copy of the playbook from center John Sullivan, who was able to stop by Winter Park in late April when the lockout was briefly lifted.
DeGeare, meanwhile, said he weighs about 340 pounds right now. "Last year, they had me at 335 was my game weight," he said. "It’ll probably be somewhere in there. I was comfortable with it. In college, I played a lot bigger than that, but I like 335. You can move, feel great with it, and still bigger a lot of the defense out there."
DeGeare, who just arrived in the Twin Cities, has been training with someone who is more along the lines of a bodybuilder. "I'm just trying to get bigger, faster,stronger," DeGeare said.
He did run into a difficult challenge completing six 300-yard shuttles in the heat Friday morning. "Oh yeah [it's tough], especially when you’re expecting three and you run six," he said. "But it was all good. My legs need it. It felt good to get out moving like that."
The Vikings got back on the field Tuesday -- or at least a few of them did.
With the NFL lockout heading toward its third month, seven players got together for a workout at the IMG Madden Football Academy in Bradenton, Fla. The list of participants was supposed to be around a dozen, but veteran wide receivers Bernard Berrian, Percy Harvin and Sidney Rice, tight end Visanthe Shiancoe and running back Lorenzo Booker are now not expected until Wednesday.
Working with quarterback Christian Ponder, who played a key role in organizing these sessions, were quarterbacks Joe Webb and Rhett Bomar, wide receivers Greg Camarillo and Emmanuel Arceneaux, tight end Kyle Rudolph and center Brandon Fusco. Fusco was a sixth-round pick by the Vikings in April.
Ponder and his teammates went through one on-the-field session Tuesday afternoon after working on agility and other skills in the morning. There are supposed to be two on-the-field practices on Wednesday, along with more weight room and class room work. It sounds as if now there won't be a practice Thursday morning before things break up but there could be some meetings.
Former Cretin-Derham Hall and Florida State quarterback Chris Weinke, who works for IMG and already had been working with Ponder and Webb, is serving to help with the install of the offense that is part of the Vikings playbook that Ponder got from offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave during the brief time when the lockout was lifted in late April.
Ponder is now getting copies of that playbook (he is literally making copies) to his teammates that show up in Bradenton. Ponder has been working with Weinke on learning the passing plays in the Vikings offense and next the focus will shift to the run game.
Camarillo said the same thing Webb told Chip last week and that's that the verbiage in Musgrave's offense has been pared way down from what the Vikings did under former coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.
As far as setting up the workouts, Ponder said: "You see all these other teams doing workouts, and we were one of the few teams that wasn't doing anything. Somebody had to get the ball rolling I thought as a quarterback it was up to me to do it. A lot of the veteran guys I reached out to were all gung-ho and excited about it. Everyone was good to me."
(Hat tip to the St. Pete Times' Greg Auman, who is serving as a stringer for the Star Tribune in Bradenton and will have a full story on this website later today.)
As we mentioned in a story and blog post on Monday, Vikings quarterbacks Joe Webb and rookie Christian Ponder are training together at IMG Madden Football Academy in Bradenton, Fla.
The two quarterbacks met for the first time on Tuesday.
"A real cool guy," Webb said by phone Tuesday afternoon. "We’re just trying to get to know each other on a personal level. It was fun meeting him for the first time."
The two also are digesting the Vikings playbook with the help of former NFL quarterback Chris Weinke, director of the football academy. The two quarterbacks normally would be learning the new system during OTAs and minicamps but they're forced to take a different approach because of the lockout.
Webb said he's happy that he gets to spend time training with Ponder and getting to know him before the NFL returns to business.
"You can build that chemistry and the relationship," Webb said. "No matter who wins the job, both of us are going to need one another during the season. If I win the job, he’ll be on the sideline looking at things. If he wins the job, then I’ll be looking at the defenses. No matter what, it’s good for us to be down here working together and getting in the playbook together."
Webb said he likes Musgrave's system in part because it features much less verbiage than the West Coast offense used by Brad Childress and Darrell Bevell. In a story late last season, Bevell joked about the extensive verbiage in West Coast play calls.
"The best thing about the West Coast offense is we tell everybody where to go and everybody what to do [in the play call]," he said. "The worst thing about the West Coast offense is we tell everybody where to go and everybody what to do."
Webb said Musgrave's system is easier to process.
"The verbiage is a lot shorter," he said. "With Coach Musgrave’s, it allows you to play fast. You just call at the most three, four words and you have a whole play. It just allows you to not worry about calling the play but worry about executing the play. Last year I was more worried about getting the play called right in the huddle so everyone knew what to do. It also affected my game on the field."
Webb hopes to have a pretty good grasp of the playbook when the NFL opens for business again. He appreciates the work he's getting at IMG, but he knows it's not ideal.
"I’m working with Chris Weinke and he’s a great coach," he said. "He’s helping me. But at the same time, it would be better if I were working with Craig Johnson, my quarterback coach in Minnesota. He can be showing me some things that I can relate to. [The lockout] is kind of frustrating but you just try and stay positive and get the most of out this offseason."
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